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Friday, 14 March 2025

Vs Shanghai Shenhua (home) 12/3/25 ACL 2024/25 last sixteen, second leg


Kawasaki Frontale 4 - 0 Shanghai Shenhua

Now that’s more like it! After what were probably the two worst games of Hasebe Frontale, (well, that probably goes without saying as they were the only two defeats, but I feel that the awfulness of Kyoto at home and Shanghai away needs to be emphasised a bit), we’re back to 4-0 wins again. Of course our first Hasebe game was a 4-0 win in the ACL which we followed up with a 4-0 win in the league. So logically our next result will be… hmmm, I doubt we’ll be winning 4-0 away in Okayama. But it’s nice to dream, isn’t it? Everything points to the Okayama game being more reminiscent of the Kyoto game sadly. But let’s not let any realism get in the way of what is another positive post! It’s going to be a short one as this month is pretty hectic for me. So let’s get this done and out of the way in the usual style.


Us -


A greatly improved performance with lots of stand-outs. Oshima being back in the team was a big surprise and you’ve got to say that it probably contributed to our victory. In my usual way, I didn’t notice Oshima that much, but I’ve come to associate this with him having an excellent game. I do quite often notice when our midfielders play badly, so Oshima just smoothly doing the job ends up passing me by. This probably singles me out as being a footballing imbecile, but if that’s the price to pay for great performances I’ll happily go along with it. I feel like with Oshima in the team, nominally alongside Kawahara, we didn’t suffer from the thing we have when Kawahara plays with Tachibanada, where both players are aiming to play in the same position. The interchange between the two of them was a lot smoother, with Oshima usually being a bit further forward, but the two swapping position a bit more fluidly when necessary. I think the same could be said about those first two 4-0's where Tachibanada or Kawahara played alongside Yamamoto. I think much like was the case with Tachibanada and Joao Schmidt, it should be one or the other of Tachibanada or Kawahara and not both of them. Hopefully Hasebe feels the same way. You can’t really argue with Erison coming back in ahead of Yamada too. Yamada is not having the best of seasons so far. And with Erison there, the attack seems a lot more varied. Erison was constantly winning the ball and laying it off for others. Yamada isn’t as good at winning the ball and doesn’t usually pass it. At least not recently. So although it may be an unpopular opinion amongst Frontale fans, I think Erison is better up front right now. Although you wouldn’t know it from looking at the player scores on Flashscore, which I feel are getting increasingly ridiculous week on week. Erison had a great game. As did Sasaki, who scored an amazing goal to ease the tension early on. It was slightly reminiscent of his first goal for us against Kashima. Not particularly in the way he scored it, but more in the ‘what the fuck happened there?’ delight that followed it. He also put in an amazing pass for Erison's goal, which was another lovely finish. Finally, I feel I should praise Yamaguchi a bit as he finally had something to do in this game and he did it well. I was quite surprised how good he is at catching the ball. I know this sounds ridiculous but there were definitely times when I think a lot of keepers would have punched or parried but the ball ended up sticking to his gloves. Well done Yamaguchi! To be honest, I could probably praise every player individually for one reason or another, so let’s just round up this part by saying well done everyone. A really good performance which will hopefully put a spring in our step for the next few games, away at Okayama and then… damn it, we have an international break. Not really sure why it’s necessary for the league to stop when there are international games as Moriyasu has clearly demonstrated that even if you’re playing semi-pro in the Maltese third tier you are more likely to get a call up than if you’re playing in the J League. I guess we could maybe do with a break, so that could be one positive, but if we do manage to get the job done away at Okayama it would be a shame to let some good form dwindle away.


Them -


Shanghai brought quite a lot of fans with them so fair play to them for that. Frontale Cafe and the club shop was full of them before the game which suggests that they are nice folks too. I thought they gave us a bit of a tough game early on but their threat decreased as the game went on. I feel a bit sorry for the two players who were brought as their first changes as we immediately scored after their introduction and then went on to get another a few minutes later. I feel considerably less sorry for Teixeira and Saulo Mineiro who whinged their way through the game. It was particularly amusing to see the former complaining to the ref after we scored our fourth as it was clearly him who’d given the ball away to us to facilitate the goal. I guess that’s what you’re told to do when you’re young. If you make a mistake, own up to it. Oh sorry, I mistyped. If you make a mistake, immediately moan and complain about everything other than your own actions. In terms of karma being served, it reminded me a bit of when that little shithead Oscar faked injury to get Ienaga sent off but then had to have a little cry as his team had lost the game. I guess the comparison doesn’t quite work, but I just wanted to call him a shit just one more time as I think he’s retired now.


Ref etc. -


I initially thought the ref was doing pretty well in this match. And to be honest, I’m not going to moan about decisions as I don’t think we got stiffed in this game like we possibly were in the first leg. (I still haven’t watched a replay of our disallowed goal and still don’t intend to). Our disallowed goal in this game was disappointing, but then again, we did have two others confirmed by VAR, so I’m not going to complain. It was particularly good to see Ito’s goal given the thumbs up as he’s already had one ruled out by VAR this year. My one slight whinge might be that once again in the ACL, the ref blew up early. Normally a couple of seconds doesn’t really make that much difference I guess, but I remember the announcements in my Orient season ticket days when the tannoy would always say something like ‘the fourth official has signaled that there will be a minimum of three minutes of additional time’.  Perhaps instead it’s a maximum in the ACL. In the previous leg, cutting even five seconds of the game off was a blessed relief, but it was a bit annoying to see the ref blow up just as Erison raced clear, and even more annoying when I watched the replay and found that he did it early. Oh well, eh? One final official comment, I loved the linesman down in front of us. I didn’t love him for decisions, but instead loved him for the fact that he looked constantly bewildered, as if he was that guy from Quantum Leap who’d moments before been dropped into the situation and was still trying to work out when, where and who he was. My favourite part was when the ball left the pitch and he just held his flag directly above his head with both hands for an interminably long time, waiting for the ref to decide which way he should give it. I quite like imagining it as something like when that taxi driver ended up being interviewed on the panel of a BBC news program because he had the same first name as the guest they were expecting. The ‘linesman’ turned up hoping to buy a ticket on the door, went to the wrong place, got let in and was handed a flag. More power to him! I think that I too would probably also have been too embarrassed to say anything and would have just given it a go.

Next up, as mentioned before, a potentially spirit squashing visit to Okayama. At least if it does end up being a game like the Kyoto one was, we have the consolation that we’re doing an away trip. To get another pair of 4-0’s would be lovely, but I think I’d probably settle for it not being quite as mind-numbingly dull as the Kyoto game. What a way to finish this post. Bravo!


Team


GK 98. YAMAGUCHI Louis
DF 5. SASAKI Asahi
DF 2. TAKAI Kota
DF 35. MARUYAMA Yuichi
DF 13. MIURA Sota
MF 19. KAWAHARA So
MF 10. OSHIMA Ryota
MF 37. ITO Tatsuya
MF 14. WAKIZAKA Yasuto (Yellow card 42')
MF 23. MARCINHO
FW 9. ERISON

Subs

GK 1. JUNG Sung-Ryong
GK 21. ANDO Shunsuke
DF 7. KURUMAYA Shintaro
MF 8. TACHIBANADA Kento (on for KAWAHARA 85')
MF 16. OZEKI Yuto
FW 20. YAMADA Shin (on for ERISON 78')
FW 24. MIYAGI Ten
FW 30. SEGAWA Yusuke (on for WAKIZAKA 85')
DF 31. VAN WERMESKERKEN Sai
FW 32. KANDA Soma
FW 41. IENAGA Akihiro (on for ITO 78')
MF 77. YAMAMOTO Yuki (on for OSHIMA 72')


My Frontale Man Of The Match

No shortage of candidates to give it to and also the possibility of wussing out and giving it to the whole team as we’ve qualified for the bizarre next stage which will be held in Saudi Arabia (naturally). But to keep things simple, I’ll give it to…

SASAKI Asahi - amazing goal and great assist too.

Goals

SASAKI (Frontale) 35' 1-0
ERISON (Frontale) 64' 2-0
ITO (Frontale) 68' 3-0
MARCINHO (Frontale) 90+1' 4-0

Highlights

Wednesday, 5 March 2025

Vs Shanghai Shenhua (away) 5/3/25 ACL 2024/25 last sixteen, first leg

Shanghai Shenhua 1 - 0 Kawasaki Frontale


Well that was pretty shit, wasn’t it? I missed the first half as I was at work and just about made it home for the start of the second and… nothing happened. Well, apart from us gifting the opposition a goal and handed ourselves a defeat for the second time in five days. Apparently we had a shot. I can’t remember it. We had no shots on target in the whole game. But a lovely title winning 64% possession. I never like to comment much after watching a game online as I don’t think I have anything worth adding, This is probably even more true when you consider I missed the first half. It seems that I’ve cursed Miura by saying he’s been great this season. I don’t think a single one of his crosses made it past the first defender. I’m not very confident about the second leg. Actually, how do you dial that down one notch? What’s one level lower than ‘not very confident’? Maybe, ‘we’re fucked’? Let’s end with two statements of contrasting levels of optimism. Seeing as our first choice team and second choice team have both been shite for the last week, let’s be optimistic and say that the perfect mix of the two will be the one that works well and can win us the second leg. Guess Hasebe just has to find that mix but doesn’t have  a lot of time to do it. And then on the other side of the optimism coin, let’s point to the fact that we had less shots in this game than we did in the one against the same opposition when we played for 85 minutes with 10 men. So choose which way you fancy going when it comes to optimism, and I’ll see you back here after the second leg next Wednesday.

(Oh, are you wondering about our goal that VAR ruled out? I haven't even bothered watching a replay and can't imagine I will).

Team

GK 98. YAMAGUCHI Louis
DF 31. VAN WERMESKERKEN Sai
DF 2. TAKAI Kota
DF 35. MARUYAMA Yuichi
DF 13. MIURA Sota
MF 19. KAWAHARA So
MF 77. YAMAMOTO Yuki
MF 37. ITO Tatsuya
MF 14. WAKIZAKA Yasuto
MF 23. MARCINHO (Yellow card 43')
FW 20. YAMADA Shin

Subs

GK 1. JUNG Sung-Ryong
GK 21. ANDO Shunsuke
DF 5. SASAKI Asahi (Yellow card 90+3') (on for VAN WERMESKERKEN 59')
DF 7. KURUMAYA Shintaro
MF 8. TACHIBANADA Kento
FW 9. ERISON (on for YAMADA 80')
DF 15. TANABE Shuto
MF 16. OZEKI Yuto (on for YAMAMOTO 85')
FW 24. MIYAGI Ten
FW 30. SEGAWA Yusuke (on for ITO 80')
FW 32. KANDA Soma
FW 41. IENAGA Akihiro (on for MARCINHO 46')


Goals


TAKAI (Frontale) 76' OWN GOAL 1-0

Highlights

Wednesday, 23 October 2024

Vs Shanghai Shenhua (away) 23/10/24 ACL 2024/25 game 3

Shanghai Shenhua 2 - 0 Kawasaki Frontale 

Another awful result. Can’t really comment too much on the performance for a few reasons. Firstly I didn’t see most of the game as I was working. And secondly, I guess the performance is never going to be particularly good if you have to play with ten men for 85 mins of the game. In previous years Oniki has been shown up in this competition and this year when we get shown up by pretty much anyone on a weekly basis, it’s no surprise we’re not doing well in the ACL. I think I said previously that the big problem with us not sacking Oniki or even coming to a ‘mutual consent’ agreement for him to leave earlier meant that he had the opportunity to not only destroy our league, Emperor’s Cup and Levain Cup prospects, but also do irrevocable damage to our ACL campaign for 24/25 before we’ve even got to 2025. In a competition where eight out of the twelve teams progress to the next round, it really takes a high level of incompetence to get your team knocked out, but it looks like Oniki has got the skills for the job. with only two teams sitting below us, we look like we’re in a pretty bad position. One of those two teams is Ulsan, who we just about sneaked past, against the run of play, in our opening game in what was a great triumph for Oniki. The fact that their two consequent opponents haven’t had much trouble scoring against them and beating them says a lot. We have one goal from over 270 minutes of football in this competition. Truly glorious stuff.

I can’t say for sure, but it seems that Oniki might have reverted to his favoured 4-3-3 for this game. Remember that formation that prevents us from winning almost every game recently? You know, the one that when he changes it results in significantly better performances? And then is brought back right in time for a defeat to follow up any half decent result? Lovely stuff! It’s hard to say if this game really was 4-3-3 as we were almost immediately a man down. But the pre-match line ups seem to suggest that is what happened. And after all, it’s Oniki we’re talking about, so it probably was. Marcinho has been sent off again, for pretty much the same thing he is always sent off for. You have to go back to 2017 for his previous red card before the ones this year. Which all suggests that perhaps he’s being asked to do something he clearly can’t do. But still the clown in charge is asking him to do it. I guess maybe Oniki doesn’t mind so much, as now it gives him something to divert the blame for the defeat from it being the result of his own massive inadequacies. In recent years Marcinho only seems to pick up a couple of yellows a season at the most. But this year he’s on fire in that respect too. Although a ratio of five yellow to one red suggests that more often than not, when he fouls, he really fouls. Given that he clearly can’t tackle, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Oniki try him at full back sooner or later. Because whilst it’s easy to say Oniki doesn’t ever really change anything much, the one thing he is constantly innovating with is playing new attackers out of position at full back. There really is no beginning to his managerial talents. But still, we can look forward to the after game comments where he once again says that the team wanted to win the match for all the fans who’d gathered in the stadium and those who were watching at home. Quite why he persists in saying something so blatantly obvious after every cock up makes me suspicious. Such is the lack of managerial talent from him that if he ever tried to throw a match I suspect we’d probably end up winning it. For years we said Oniki was an unbelievably lucky manager. I’m not sure he ever really had the golden touch. I think it was more a case of us having a platinum situation that he managed to not cock up too much. But whichever way you look at it, any golden touch is long gone, and any gold we might see now is clearly going to be from the kilolitres of golden liquid resulting from masses of absolutely piss poor performances, mostly thanks to piss poor management.

It’s very dangerous for us to get a win in 2024. After a win against the mighty Sony Sendai, we crashed out in the following round of the Emperor’s Cup to a J2 team. After just about defeating another J2 team in Kofu in the Levain Cup, we royally fucked up the next tie and were out. After a win in our opening game in the league, we then lost to Jubilo at home conceding five. It might be an exaggeration to say that put paid to our title hopes, but I think it clearly pointed at what was to come. And then in the ACL, a squeaky win against Ulsan and then two defeats. I mean, I know 2024 could have gone worse, but honestly it couldn’t have been much worse, could it? Next up Kashima at home on Friday next week. I intend to get smashed before the game and perhaps then I can sleep through most of it in the stands, the most effective way of enjoying Oniki’s football to the max.

Team

GK 1.
JUNG Sung-Ryong
DF 31. VAN WERMESKERKEN Sai
DF 35. MARUYAMA Yuichi
DF 5. SASAKI Asahi
DF 13. MIURA Sota
MF 8. TACHIBANADA Kento
MF 77. YAMAMOTO Yuki
MF 14. WAKIZAKA Yasuto
FW 41. IENAGA Akihiro
FW 20. YAMADA Shin
FW 23. MARCINHO (Red card 5')

 
Subs

GK 22. HAYASAKA Yuki
GK 98. YAMAGUCHI Louis

FW 9. ERISON
(on for YAMADA 69')
FW 11. KOBAYASHI Yu (on for IENAGA 79')
DF 15. TANABE Shuto
FW 17. TONO Daiya (on for MIURA 79')
MF 19. KAWAHARA So
(on for YAMAMOTO 64')
FW 24. MIYAGI Ten
FW 26. YAMAUCHI Hinata
FW 30. SEGAWA Yusuke (on for VAN WERMESKERKEN 69')
MF 34. YUI Kota
DF 44. CESAR HAYDAR

Goals

WANG (Shanghai) 24' 1-0

ANDRE LUIS (Shanghai) 90+3' PEN 2-0


Highlights